I would love for some input as to how this hand should have been played. Should I have folded my hand pre-flop?
Full Tilt Poker Game #5739246898: Table Wisconsin (6 max) - $0.05/$0.10 - Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 15:41:36 ET - 2008/03/22
Seat 1: bayne_s ($9.40)
Seat 2: Buy Me Dinner ($10)
Seat 3: rottie99 ($10.65)
Seat 4: Donkette ($17.60)
Seat 5: dreezle ($37.20)
Seat 6: SirFWALGMan ($9.35)
SirFWALGMan posts the small blind of $0.05
bayne_s posts the big blind of $0.10
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Donkette [Kd 5c Kh 4d]
rottie99 folds
Donkette raises to $0.35
dreezle has 15 seconds left to act
dreezle raises to $0.70
SirFWALGMan raises to $2.55
bayne_s folds
Donkette calls $2.20
dreezle calls $1.85
*** FLOP *** [Ks 2s 2h]
SirFWALGMan bets $6.80, and is all in
Donkette raises to $15.05, and is all in
dreezle folds
Donkette shows [Kd 5c Kh 4d]
SirFWALGMan shows [Ah 6d Ac Js]
Uncalled bet of $8.25 returned to Donkette
*** TURN *** [Ks 2s 2h] [8s]***
RIVER *** [Ks 2s 2h 8s] [9s]
Donkette shows a full house, Kings full of Twos
SirFWALGMan shows two pair, Aces and Twos
Donkette wins the pot ($20.35) with a full house, Kings full of Twos
SirFWALGMan is sitting out
*** SUMMARY ***Total pot $21.35
Rake $1Board: [Ks 2s 2h 8s 9s]
Seat 1: bayne_s (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 2: Buy Me Dinner is sitting out
Seat 3: rottie99 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: Donkette showed [Kd 5c Kh 4d] and won ($20.35) with a full house, Kings full of Twos
Seat 5: dreezle (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 6: SirFWALGMan (small blind) showed [Ah 6d Ac Js] and lost with two pair, Aces and Twos
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Oh please, if you fold that hand against Waffles you have a big leak. Versus Waffles, any four cards are golden.
LOL.
Second nuts . . . against Waffles???
I wouldn't fold 18th nuts against Waffles.
Then again, I wouldn't fold A-high against Waffles.
IWTO are gold.
My own opinion is KK54 is just not that good a PLO hand so does not rate a preflop raise.
Your 2nd best HE hand is 54.
Raising pre introduces that you called $2.20 to win $4.40 true pot odds and since waffles only has $6.80 behind you don't have set mining odds.
Waffles reads like a comic book so don't see point of gambling with him when you can patiently wait for him to throw away his stack with 5 outs or drawing dead
Bottom lines pretty simple, IMHO.
Having had aces cracked by the almighty hammer, and taking "The Bammer" to new hieghts myself against a set K's for the win, I figure you pay the dough to play how you feel you want to or should do at the time.
Feeling bad about a win is just the result of being unsure of your play and the caht or rant, of another. Part of the game in my books.
Funny how most everyone that cracks aces, pretty much celebrates like a good friend just won an Olympic Gold. But when they lose with them, the player they were up against, was the biggest Donkey.
It's poker 101. Hands win and hands lose. How the player handles it, is a far bigger "tell" than anything else.
You pay.... You play!
It's really just that simple. The sooner we get off our soapbox of idealistic play, the sooner we'll all realize that some fun was had by all, and that was what we were there for in the first place. It may be great to be competitive, but if we always make the correct choice and win every hand, I somehow doubt we'd be playing for $26 on a Monday night.
But then again....
WTF do I know?
I don't think Donkette or I for that matter were crying about the hand. She wants honest advice on how she played it. I think Bayne's comment is right on. With the RR there (discounting what that hippy faggot Al says) it is 99% of the time Aces. Especially when your opponent does not have enough money behind for you to set mine you have to fold there. In general folding is probably the right move anyways.
I appreciate the fact that Donkette tries to learn from her play and I think she has developed into a much better player than the early Riverfuckers days AND I think she is going to just keep getting stronger.
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